DIY Sustainer

Introduction

Sustainer is cool little device originally designed by Fernandes®. It works opposite from "normal" guitar pickup. Basically, active circuit amplifies signal from bridge pickup and sends it to driver which generates magnetic field causing strings to vibrate infinitely. Driver replaces neck pickup on guitar which limits guitar tonal variations in one way but gives completely new possibilities. Signal flow with the sustainer is pickup -> amplifier -> driver where driver replaces a speaker. Speaker cone movement is replaced by magnetic field generated around the driver.

Building your own sustainer is not simple and requires a lot of research and experimenting. Make sure you have basic knowledge in soldering, electronics, guitar wiring and pickup building. Otherwise, this can easily prove to be a painful project and you may be better off buying a real Ferndandes sustainer or Sustainiac.

Original Fernandes Sustainer

This photo shows Fernandes Sustainer kit which is cool but very expensive (above 200$). Fortunately, great guys from Project Guitar Forum (most of all Pete/psw and Col) developed DIY friendly project that costs much less than original but still sounds good. Total cost of the build is between 10 and 20 euros (or dollars), depending on what you already have. Also, I’d like to thank PSW Pete for sending me a spool of 0.2mm wire all the way from Australia at no cost.

Step 1: getting a bobbin

You can buy a new single coil bobbin and pickup cover online or try to salvage one from an old pickup. I got a bunch of them from a friend and picked one that had a bobbin I liked. I used a traditional single coil bobbin with 6 pole pieces which makes for a discrete driver, but many DIY-ers had great results with rail-type pickups, and original sustainer is also rail.

old_pickup

Strip the pickup and remove all wire. There’s a lot of very thin wire there so cutting it instead of unwinding is the way to go. In this case, pickup was potted which made stripping wire even harder. Nice thing about this is that pole pieces can be adjusted, so if I end up with uneven sustain I’ll be able to set poles higher or lower to compensate difference.

stripped
Step 2: modifying the bobbin height

Pickup coils are usually wound to around 10mm of height and bobbins are designed to fit a coil that’s 10mm high. For sustainer driver, optimal coil height seems to be around 3mm, which means that we need to modify the bobbin to limit coil height to 3mm. One way to do it is shown below.

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The way I did it was using a thin (around 0.5mm) piece of transparent plastic used for packaging that I bent into L profile and cut to shape with scissors. Then I glued it in place using epoxy glue. Super glue can also be used for quicker setting time.

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Step 3: winding the coil

Recommended wire gauge for winding the coil is 0.2mm (AWG #32). Taking the resistance of copper into account, we can calculate that we need around 14.9m of wire to get the coil to target resistance of around 8 ohms. Using the calculator for estimating number of turns we get around 120 turns on a strat bobbin. It will depend on the geometry of the bobbin, so it’s best to check coil resistance as you go. I used transparent universal glue to pot the pickup after each 20 or so turns to make sure the coil is kept in place and to prevent microphonics.

winding_done

After 100 or so turns you can try to take the insulation off a tiny portion of the wire using a knife and measure the resistance of the coil so far. If you reached 8ohm, it’s done. Otherwise, do a layer or two more and repeat until you get to the target resistance. When it’s done, I soldered leads to both ends of the coil, secured them with a blob of glue and covered everything with insulating tape.

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Step 4: the circuit

For the circuit we want to build a real clean guitar amplifier that operates the same way as a conventional amplifier, but instead of driving a speaker, it drives our sustainer. Pretty much any amplifier that can deliver few hundreds of milliwatts of power can do the job. A few people have reported Fetzer/Ruby amplifier from ROG to be performing well, so I decided to use that circuit. It’s got one FET gain stage (Fetzer Valve booster) that amplifies input signal before it hits the LM386 power amplifier taken from Ruby amplifier circuit. Both circuits may be found at runoffgroove.com and it’s just a matter of putting them together. I used trimmers for all controls and omitted Ruby volume control, as we already have one in the Fetzer Valve part of the circuit. 100K bias trimmer on the FET should be set to position that gives us roughly 4.5V at the drain of the FET and the remaining two trimmers should be adjusted at the end when the driver is installed in the guitar.


For my build I used this simple but not very compact perfboard layout. I suggest building as small board as possible, increasing the chance of fitting it inside the guitar without the need for routing.

sustainer_board
Step 5: wiring

By popular request, I updated the article with a proposed wiring for the sustainer driver and circuit. I don’t have ability to test now it as it’s been almost 10 years since I built the sustainer, so if anyone does try it, please leave your comments below. There’s more than one way to do it and it will depend on your guitar. It’s ideal to have only bridge pickup and sustainer in the guitar because it will reduce a chance of interference between the driver and other pickups. Driver emits a lot of EM waves that excite the strings, but other pickups can pick them up too, and that’s not good!

Sustainer can operate in two modes: in phase which amplifies vibrations of the strings making them sustain indefinitely (or as long as the battery has enough juice to power the circuit) and out of phase (harmonic) which makes the guitar feedback with harmonics (listen to some of Steve Vai live performances, like “Building the Church”). The two modes can be toggled using a DPDT switch that flips the positive and negative side of the amplifier output.

As for the main sustainer switch, there’s more than one way it can be wired and in some cases you may need 3 or 4 pole switch. This is the simplest implementation that kills the battery supply to preserve power and when engaged it wires bridge pickup to the amplifier.

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Step 6: tweaking

After the driver is installed in the guitar, we need to tweak the Gain and Volume trimmers to make sure that we get enough sustain but not get into feedback and oscillation. I suggest starting with both trimmers around noon and tweaking it from there. We are aiming for infinite sustain that doesn’t increase the level or add distortion. In sustain mode, if you hit the note and it starts amplifying on its own until it goes into oscillation, it means that Volume and/or Gain are too high. On the other hand, if there’s no infinite sustain, we should increase Gain and/or Volume.

Like with the pickups, the driver height will affect how it performs. The closer it is to the string, the stronger it will affect them. Using the same height as a typical guitar pickup is a good starting point and you can tweak it if there’s need.

Useful links

Project Guitar "Sustainer Ideas" thread (very large)
Project Guitar tutorial on building driver
Program for calculating number of turns for given core dimensions and wire gauge
Official Fernandes Sustainer page

Comments
119 Responses to “DIY Sustainer”
  1. Chris says:

    Well, i think i wrote the question wrong, can you tell me how to combinate those two circuits? I’ve got the 2 schematics from ROG, but don’t know how to combinate. Perhabs I’ve got an mistake in thinking……

    Should I replace the jfet circuit from the ruby with that of the fetzer without the 10k-A Pot?

  2. Chris says:

    Hey, can you share a shematic of the combinated circuits (the finished PCB) please?
    This is my mail-adress: christian.fuehrer89@gmail.com

    Thanks a lot

    • bancika says:

      Hi. I do not have anything other than stuff posted above. You should be able to figure it out from the ROG page, these circuits are trivial.
      Cheers

  3. Luis says:

    hello, i have a question, may i use a normal single coil instead of the sustainer driver?, i have a single coil with 5.4Kohms, but in my country is too difficult to find the AWG32 gauge, so i need to know if i can use a normal single coil instead of the driver sustainer, may it works ? …. thanks a lot ….

  4. Cesar says:

    Hello, i want to understand the feedback switch connections, hmmmm, i see that i have to jump 2 of the 6 pins ????, so, one part of the output of the switch is jumped to the other outputs ????

    • bancika says:

      The switch is there to flip the two leads coming from the amp, thus reverting the polarity.

      • Cesar says:

        ok, ok, but the question is, looking the picture, i see the sustain/feedback switch, ok, and i look a wire of red color and a wire of blue color, that jumps from the 2 violet driver wires to other 2 pins that aren’t connected, so my question is; i have to solder 2 wires there or what? …. thankyou ….

  5. David Samual says:

    Hello,
    I have an extra Seymour Duncan BMP1…the device which can make a passive pup into an active.
    Do you think it’s possible to repurpose this into a circuit to drive a handmade driver for infinite sustain pickup system?

    • bancika says:

      No sir. What you have is a preamp, but you need a power amp that is capable of driving a speaker

  6. Matt says:

    Is it possible to do this with two pickups and the sustainer?

    • bancika says:

      yes, but I’ve heard that feedback and noise can be an issue as driver emits strong EM field that the middle pickup can register even when it’s not selected, so care must be taken. Some suggest completely disconnecting the second pickup when the sustainer is on (probably needs 4PDT switch instead of a DPDT to disengage the second pickup in addition to switching the sustainer).

  7. Marciorocker says:

    Hi.
    Is it possible to build it with a humbucker?

    • Bancika says:

      you mean build the driver on a humbucker bobbin? Sure, you can wind on one side only and leave the other bobbin empty. Or maybe try to wind both with 4ohm coils. I haven’t tried it, but it should work. Not sure if better or worse šŸ™‚

      • Marciorocker says:

        I’m asking because Steve Vai uses the original Fernandes Sustainer with a humbucker, just like the schemo on the website: http://www.fernandesguitars.com/sustainer/sustainer.html

        One more question: doesn’t the E-bow work the same way? Isn’t it possible to make an E-bow if you could put the components in a smaller enclosure?

        Thanks again and sorry for my bad English.

        • Bancika says:

          Not sure how Fernandes sustainer works, it’s definitely more complicated as it can work as an active pickup or sustainer driver.

          yes, ebow is the same thing, so you can build it externally.

    • Bancika says:

      Jeez, I didn’t know. I was going to write to him, haven’t heard from him in a long time. That sucks šŸ™

  8. Antony says:

    I always wondered why everyone puts a magnet at the bottom of the driver. I mean the current flowing through the coil would make it an electromagnet anyway.

  9. martin says:

    does this circuit work with other sustainer driver pickups? i was thinking of just buying one from ebay and using the circuit.

    • Bancika says:

      I believe it should work with any driver…although Fernandes driver can also be used as an active pickup. You can’t do that with this circuit, you can just use it as sustainer.

  10. Ross says:

    Oh my apologies. B+ = battery input. Please excuse my stupidity prior to messaging.

    Again, thanks for your site – inspiring me.

  11. Ross says:

    Thanks for this site by the way – really really useful!

  12. Ross says:

    What does B+ mean on the amp circuit? I’m using an amp with only one input – so not sure what B+ means?

  13. Brian Haner says:

    hi, I have question, how to make the harmonic mode? in 386 circuit there are 2 pot, volume and gain, are you put the switch in one of them? sorry for my bad english

  14. Busran says:

    sorry iā€™m newbie for all of this.
    but how if i only made the driver (pickup), without the amplifier.
    is it still work?
    please answer to my email pexupg@gmail.com

    (sorry my bad english)

    • George says:

      No, you need the amp to feed current to the driver and make the strings vibrate. If you only build the driver you will only have a pickup.

  15. busran says:

    please help to transmit circuits and how to install the components sustainer, I have 2 years of searching for a circuit and how to install the components sustainer but until now do not know please email pexupg@gmail.com thank you very much …..

  16. David says:

    Hi, just a simple question… what guage of coil was used and how many windings did it take to achieve 8k resistance. thanks in adance.

    • Bancika says:

      If I remember correctly, it was 0.2mm wire. Not sure about the winding count, it was about 400 or something like that. It’s best to use the calculator to get the exact turn count for your bobbin.

  17. Mike G says:

    I’m not sure how old this post is, but I’m curious how your project turned out? I’m interested in trying this on a bass! I have a 6 string ibanez a friend gave me. I love playing the thing, never gig with it because it sounds pretty terrible, but this could make it cool and fun. It has 2 passive pickups in it, not sure what type (Bartolini branded made in china crapola).(It has an active preamp, not sure if that matters). I have most of the parts already to try this. I was going to try and make an ebow, but this is WAY more fun. So would you tap into the output of the rear pickup, run it through the amp circuit, and output through the front pickup? (Do pickups ever magically have an 8ohm resistance?)
    Thanks from St. Louis, MO. USA
    Cool project!
    MikeG

    • Bancika says:

      Ha, no way, pickups have way, way more resistance. You need to wind the coil with thicker wire.

      I never got to install the sustainer. It kinda worked but I didn’t really need it so I left it aside.

      Cheers

  18. Rivarock says:

    sorry i’m newbie for all of this.
    but how if i only made the driver (pickup), without the amplifier.
    is it still work?
    please answer to my email ahrifai69@gmail.com

    (sorry my bad english)

  19. Tylon says:

    I apologize if this is a really simple question, but where do the toggle switches go?

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